Most billionaires throw their money at neutral or conservative causes, I think Soros every once in a while throws his at an ever so slightly progressive one and several liberal ones.... Also he's Jewish. TIL of Oskar Gröning, a German soldier who worked at Auschwitz but was able to hide it for 40 years. [5]:140–141 Without his father's knowledge, he did so in 1940[6] at a hotel where the SS was recruiting. This myth appears a lot in this thread. From the US Holocaust Museum's website: Germans who refused to participate in atrocities were generally not punished, but risked peer, social, and sometimes professional exclusion or disadvantage. Dying before prison has left him a despicable Nazi who was never punished for his crimes, and given that he would never have served a sentence long enough to even begin to punish him, I think this is better than the two years in prison sympathetic 'reformed Nazi' image he would have cut. Trump represents the political victory of the Dark Money crowd. save. Call me naive or foolish if you must, but I believe almost anything, however terrible, can be atoned for and I do believe there was a genuine desire to atone on his part. Well, he took Soros with him frequently on these audits, either to train him or keep up the appearance of him not being a jew. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00tsl60/episodes/guide. Oskar Gröning, 96, was sentenced to prison for his role in the murder of 300,000 people at Auschwitz death camp. Oskar Groening, in what could be one of Germany's last big Holocaust trials, is accused of being an accessory to the murder of 300,000 people … PHOTO: REUTERS. Oskar Groening, a former Nazi SS officer who is often referred to as the "bookkeeper of Auschwitz," admitted his guilt Wednesday during a trial in Lueneburg, Germany, in which he is charged with 300,000 counts of accessory to murder. 87% Upvoted. You do know all Germans didn't have a choice. I'm sure there were a BUNCH of Hungarian children chomping at the bit to join a war that had been a foregone conclusion for about 3 1/2 years at that point. It's meant he's died in relative (according to the general public) obscurity. They support think tanks and intellectuals like Charles Murray, author of The Bell Curve, who provide intellectual cover for attacks on social services. Auschwitz survivor confronts former Nazi Oskar Groening at trial Auschwitz concentration camp survivor Eva Kor in the courtroom in Lueneburg, Germany on … However, once Soros made his money in this way, he chose to use a good deal of it to fund dissident movements and civil rights movements against authoritarian and racist regimes around the world, plus fighting against the Drug War which he rightfully identified as a Civil Rights issue. Former SS guard Oskar Groening, center, leaves the court building after the first day of the trial against him in Lueneburg, northern Germany, on April 21, 2015. Look into Betsy De Vos whose brother Eric Prince founded Blackwater (now Academi) the largest mercenary army in the world. The child was lying on the ramp, wrapped in rags. From Oskar Gröning's wikipedia page (literally the article the OP linked to): Gröning wanted to join an elite army unit and set his sights on joining the Schutzstaffel. This is why they are using disinformation campaigns, misleading media, etc, to attack him. My hope is that the current protest movement against police killing of black people grows into a collective and unified movement for deep systemic change in the United States, not just de-funding the police but also bringing about a redistribution of wealth and a renewal of democracy. A German court has … Nice. Considering he was sentenced for 300,000 cases, that seems like a very light term. Quite impressive considering how the SS only accepted ages 18 and up. The $2 trillion bail out agreed to by Congress and Trump was yet another massive atrocity against the US population - another massive pay out to the wealthy at the expense of the common people. However he funds many on-the-ground civil rights groups over the long term that spring into action when protests etc happen. Not sure what it was specifically that pushed him into the limelight like he is now, but I have no doubt a large part of it is the fact that he's Jewish, Hes a jewish person and most right wing populists kinda flirt with nazism and believing it's the Jews who are the ruling class and they want to progress society and ruin traditional western values... pretty much all of it is bs but yeh. He volunteered for the Waffen SS and worked at Auschwitz from 1942. They claimed that he was guilty because he took a desk job at Auschwitz. I don't think it is right, but that is the game that our society allows them to play. This comment is followed by this brilliant response: I'm sure many redditors believe they would have been active members of White Rose, despite all statistical evidence to the contrary. It's an interesting question. For crimes such as his, there are no halfways. He funds infrastructure that helps advance the civil rights movement. Oskar Gröning: Former SS 'bookkeeper of Auschwitz' to start jail sentence after appeal fails The 96-year-old will soon start his four-year prison term for his role in the murders of 300,000 people. I am glad he is doing this and wish there were more billionaires acting in this way, even if they made their fortunes in ways I find questionable. Groening acknowledged complicity in … It should be noted that the term they gave him was nearly as low as they could go. Or you could be an idiot who hates him because hes a jew and they think hes somehow spreading marxism. Published. He died March 9, Der Spiegel magazine reported Monday. IE 11 is not supported. They developed disinformation tactics for the fossil fuel corporations which have tried to hide the impacts of climate change from the populace, by funding climate change deniers. The kind of manipulation that Soros is being accused of, by the way, is exactly what a cabal of Far Right billionaires have been doing for decades. Complaint hinges on whether convicted 96-year-old is fit enough to be imprisoned. Or some equally ridiculous bullshit. Oskar Groening was convicted in July 2015 of being an accessory to the murder of 300,000 Jews and sentenced to four years in prison. Oskar Groening, known as the "bookkeeper of Auschwitz", was sentenced to four years in prison in 2015 for being an accessory to murder at Auschwitz. A court in the northern city of Lueneburg, which has been hearing the case since April, is to read out its judgement on 94 year old Oskar Groening from 0730 GMT. He decided to master that game, which meant he couldn't think about how the money was made. A 94-year-old German man who worked as a bookkeeper at the Auschwitz death camp was convicted today of being an accessory to the murder of 300,000 people … In threads like this, comments starting "To be fair" are virtually guaranteed 'booism or exculpatory arguments for why war criminals weren't really bad guys. However in any case Biden is not going to support the level of radical change we need to ensure our near-term survival in the face of catastrophic species loss and accelerating climate change. R7: Plenty of people not only defending the Wehrmacht, but also defending the SS because "they didn't know what was happening to the Jews either". The government uses that money for countless evils. Bookkeeper of Auschwitz Oskar Groening, 96, declared fit for prison. Where was that moral fiber during the act? Question is, what was he accounting and where. Whether it has fully subverted the mainstream political process will be made clear in November. I'm sure you would of stood up against everyone once you got put into the accounting firm at Auschwitz. Ever notice that nobody says much about the victims? What saddens and appalls me is that I see so many people I know getting deeply emotionally invested in the pseudo-conspiracy narratives that I consider to be, in all probability, Right Wing funded PsyOps (like Qanon). For this reason the US Far Right hates him. The only good Nazi named Oscar had a movie made about him by Spielberg. So if he toured the country trying to educate people on the horrors of the holocaust while having participated in it himself, shouldn't he have been happy to go to prison then? He learned during his early life that markets operate impersonally, like machines. After all, if one plans on dominating the world, one must start young. Oskar Groening, the 94-year-old former Nazi officer and described “accountant of Auschwitz”, was convicted Wednesday of over 300,000 counts … From Oskar Gröning's wikipedia page (literally the article the OP linked to): Gröning wanted to join an elite army unit and set his sights on joining the Schutzstaffel. "This is George Soros; remember this the next time you hear a conservative being called 'uneducated'". The option was to do his job or wind up as a prisoner next to them. This is how all sociopathic currency speculators etc operate. Now we are facing near-term ecological collapse because of this 40 year campaign engineered by energy companies and Right Wing tycoons. So in those final years he was given the test once more, and he failed again. Oskar Groening was accused of being an accessory to the murder of at least 300,000 Jews at Auschwitz. Generally on Reddit, when something like this comes up, there are legions of posters that jump up to excuse, minimize or deflect the actions of the German participants in WW2. The wehrmacht was just following orders, the bookkeepers were just "running accounting books" (of the money stolen from interned Jews I might add). Oskar Groening was convicted in July 2015 of aiding and abetting the murders of 300,000 people. Contrastingly, it is not necessary to defer the state’s right to punish crimes if sufficient means are available to ensure proper medical care and avert acute health risks. That’s just the narrative the liberal left would have you believe. It's almost as if those "actions" were aiding in the fucking Holocaust. A big effort is underway to make Soros somehow responsible for the Floyd protests and the Black Lives Matter movement. In the event that convicted persons face an imminent danger to life or serious threats to their health, the sentence may not be executed. Former SS officer Oskar Groening, dubbed the "bookkeeper of Auschwitz", asked for "forgiveness" over his role in mass murder at the Nazi death camp, as his German trial began today. He was a moral failure so many times. I deserve this." Advice and questions welcome. ... help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. How did that defence turn out at Nuremberg again? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Gotta love such tidbits as ‘most of reddit likes to think they would be white rose but they would not’ which is true since firstly reddit is full of Nazi sympathisers and secondly reddit has a lot of ‘degenerates’ like myself(commie) who would have been rounded up by the state before we could attempt to resist. Yea. Not exactly in line with this subreddits rules so mods feel free remove just interested in what those on this subreddit think. Thus people now claim that he was an officer in the SS who hunted down jews and is secretly still working for Hitler... To help the jews overthrow the world. In 2015, Oskar Groening was found guilty of being an accessory to mass murder and sentenced to four years in prison, in what is likely to have been one of the last big Holocaust trials. There is no reliable evidence that German soldiers or police officials were killed for refusing to kill civilians. In light of the requirement that prison sentences be executed humanely convicted persons must, in principle, be given a realistic prospect of regaining freedom even if their guilt was found to be particularly serious. He should have stood up before the court and said "Yes. Plenty of people peacefully resisted without joining any specific organizations. In fact why didn't he report himself right away after this encounter? I confess I have some sympathy for him. What made conspiracy theorists specifically dogpile on this one? He smashed the baby's head against the iron side of a truck until it was silent. ELI5:Why is Oskar Groening a 94-year-old former bookkeeper & guard at Auschwitz Birkenau guilty of 300000 counts of accessory to murder in WWII But Bush Sr , Bush Jr Bill Clintion & Obama are not prosecuted for Iraq & Afghanistan wars they ordered that killed millions of innocent people ? As most of us know, it's just that, a myth. Non-Germans serving as auxiliaries and refusing to carry out direct orders to kill could be subject to discipline, dismissal, imprisonment, or even death. I dont recall anyone hating him 10 years ago. A mother had left it behind, perhaps because she knew that women with infants were sent to the gas chambers immediately. Oskar Gröning was interviewed for the 2005 BBC documentary Auschwitz: the Nazi and the Final Solution. That's the difference here, Oskar Gröning went out of his way to join an organization that pledged total loyalty to Hitler and an organization that had already begun deporting Jews. Depends on who hates him. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Amerikkka never actually fought, it was a Hollywood Jew lie, Rolls Royce Merlin - Delivering Freedom one Vrrroom at a time. Oskar Groening, 93, will stand trial next spring for his role in maintaining the Auschwitz concentration camp in occupied Poland during World War II. I saw another SS soldier grab the baby by the legs. But the thing (that the Constitutional Court also touched on) is that every prisoner must have the theoretical chance of getting released again. And personally, my government ignoring war criminals would definitely destroy my trust in them. Yep, so not only does paying taxes make you a Nazi, but so does buying Apple products. The goal is to daze and distort the judgment of people who are not trained in analytic reasoning and are prey to being emotionally swayed. If he has that much supposed moral fibre after the fact he would find it necessary himself right? World; News ‘A small cog in the Nazi death machine’: Oskar Groening, 96, dies without serving sentence. March 12, 2018, 8:18 PM UTC / Updated March 12, 2018, 8:18 PM UTC Oskar Groening never saw the inside of a prison cell, despite being found guilty of being complicit in the deaths of 300,000 people. I really wish redditors would stop using this myth to lessen fucking war crimes. [5]:140–141 Without his father's knowledge, he did so in 1940[6] at a hotel where the SS was recruiting. It's great that he spoke out against Holocaust denial, but that doesn't suddenly absolve him of his crimes. This is where people should be focusing their anger and public rants.”. It's scary to think about. Here is how I look at Soros: Soros was a Hungarian Jew forced to pretend to be Christian to survive the Nazi Holocaust. The … He was likely the last surviving Nazi war criminal to face trial. The punishment for murder is life (§ 211 StGB)*. These are the kind of people we should be calling out publicly, day after day. This Post - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, removeddit.com, archive.is, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the ShitWehraboosSay community, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Yep, because paying taxes is the exact same thing as volunteering for a genocidal paramilitary organization led by fascist dictators who's expressed purpose is the complete and utter destruction of European Jewry, Disabled People, Gay People, Roma People, Slavic People, Latvian People, etc. Which uh, if you know anything about marxism at all youd know how stupid that is. He could live with himself for 40 years but suddenly after an encounter with someone who denies explicitly the genocide he took part in, that's the part that rubbed him wrong? metro.co.uk/2017/0... 0 9 6 4 4690. comments. From what I remember of the story, Soros's parents have him to a "friend" to protect him and hide him from the Camps. IANAH. We are all guilty. 1 GG). For example, they can't seem to grasp there was a BIG difference between the German Army and the SS. Lord Soros has always been an overachiever. He was 96. The film Mr Deep State is part of this negative propaganda campaign, as is the popular "Fall of the Cabal" series. Since he was only sentenced for "aiding" (§ 27 StGB), the lowest possible sentence would have been three years (§ 49 (1) 1 StGB). He is proof that even good people can get involved in bad situations. Similarly in the view of the public who's world view is shaped by the tabloids (Daily Mail), he would have been 'rehabilitated' despite serving a minuscule sentence in comparison to his crimes. Groening going to prison was a bad thing. Oskar Groening did not kill anyone himself while working at the Auschwitz death camp, but is convicted of being an accessory to the murder of 300,000 people in 1944. etc. They could request other duties, such as guard duty or crowd control. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. “All over Facebook, I am seeing people that I know parroting anti-George Soros conspiracy memes. Plus with the state of Germany at the time Hitler took advantage of them at a weak state. He should have been happy to be punished, as you said. This thread is archived. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. Oskar Groening, 93, will be tried on "accessory to murder" charges in 300,000 cases of deported Hungarian Jews who were sent to the gas chambers, and faces up to 15 years jail. More posts from the TheRightCantMeme community, Press J to jump to the feed. I am gonna go through and try to find some of the better comments in thread and post them here. You don't need to be in the White Roses to know that what was happening was wrong. This friend was an auditor for the Nazis, basically going around and making sure everyone was being loyal. Breadcrumb Trail Links. *Kind of a bad translation here, the original calls § 211 Mord, while § 212 is called Totschlag (~Manslaughter). The crying had bothered him. You are far more credible than the person who was actually there so I will trust you 100%. Oskar Groening, the 93-year-old dubbed the "accountant of Auschwitz," will go on trial in April to face charges that he was an accessory to 300,000 murders as a Nazi death camp guard. However, he decided to publish his story after meeting a Holocaust denier, even though he was incriminating himself by doing so. There are tons of billionaires all heavily lobbying the government and throwing their money for influence. He only asked to be transfered after witnessing this: ...a baby crying. If so, Georgie went up the ranks quick, especially for a Jewish Hungarian who was 15 by the end of wwii. Germany surrendered in 1945. Oskar Groening, the so-called "Bookkeeper of Auschwitz" has been found guilty of being accessory to murder of 300,000 people. When Soros was 10 he was already in control of Nazi Germany using Hitler as a puppet and scapegoat and embedding agents in the US and he and Hillary rule the world and are simply releasing coronavirus from their Clinton Foundation labs out of Wuhan to make Trump look bad. Even if he had been, would he not be just another conscripted child soldier? Gates, Clinton, Soros, it's a bit of a roulette wheel of where the conspiracy theories fall, but being jewish definitely helps. He failed morally at the time, and he failed morally for 40 years. If you want to learn about this, please read the book Dark Money by Jane Mayer. I feel that in the end, part of him knew it was right for him to be punished and wanted to- but that he was simply too weak to take that step. You could for example, hate him because hes a billionaire and he made a lot of money on peoples suffering and then uses it to fund a lot of neoliberal "democracy" projects around the world that will in turn cause more suffering. Soros clearly did not fund the Ferguson riots in 2014 or the Floyd protests now. The idiot who made the meme can’t even idiot correctly. This group is marching toward its goal and has already succeeded, to some extent. I highly recommend it. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Why not hold is all accountable? Do you pay taxes? Because their attention has been distracted and their minds have been hacked by this propaganda machine, they do not focus their attention or anger on the proper targets - on what is actually happening. 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